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Jajakid

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Well, It’s the time you’ve all been waiting for. It’s time for

Jajakid’s 6th Application


First off, I want to talk about my demotion, and how it went.


Now before I do, I want to clarify this. I don’t want to be / sound disrespectful nor hateful or hostile in any way, shape, or form to anybody. I am just explaining what happened and how I feel about it.

I do not think I deserved my demotion, but I do take full blame for everything I did leading up to it.
I’m not saying it was a bad decision of my higher ups to demote me at the time of said demotion, but I want to state that my behavior and the outcome that led to it could’ve been prevented with a single word. If I were warned or talked to about me messing up a SINGLE TIME before / while I did any of what I’m about to explain, none of it would have happened. I was not warned or signaled about any signs towards of a demotion, ever.

One more thing, the reasons for my demotion are stated below.

Patillian —“Alright, you were demoted for arguing with Lynical, refusing to resolve your problems with Lynical, and being extremely stubborn.”

QuirkyJackal — “For the hard argument you had with Lynical and for all the things you did under our nose”

Lynical — “Favouritsm with your friends, "secret staff rules", making up bs rules and responding to people in a disrespectful manner”


(“all the things you did under our nose”, “making up bs rules”, “and responding to people in a disrespectful manner” were not mentioned nor explained in the day-long talk I had with all head admins, and all managers.)

My demotion explanation goes as follows: I was demoted for multiple minor / major things I did while admin. (confirmed by Patillian and M1ghtymouse) Those minor / major things are:
  • Unbanning a friend of mine from the discord server after a head admin banned him themselves
  • Claiming there to be “Secret Staff Rules hidden in a rule section only staff can see”
  • Arguing with a fellow admin, Lynical and supposedly refusing to settle our differences; discussing said differences in an un-serious manner.

I will be explaining the entire scenario of what happened with each of these reasons.


“unbanning a friend of mine from the discord server after a head admin banned him themselves.”


The entire story goes as follows. M1ghtymouse, a friend of mine called Geo / Allah, and I were all in a vc in the discord waiting for rust to force wipe. (We were all going to play.) Remember that M1ghty does not like Geo, but they have played countless times together. Now it may come as quite a surprise to most to reveal that saying the N-word or any other slurs in a vc can eventually result in a ban. Geo’s personality and speech uses the “N-word” alot, so while we were in the vc just hanging out we were all using it. I eventually had to take a 10 minute break to go grab breakfast, and when I returned, Geo was gone. I asked M1ghty what happened, and he stated that he banned Geo. What happened when I was gone is unclear, but apparently when I was afk M1ghty decided to ban geo because he either got on his nerves (per usual) or said the n-word (which he was using before but only now decided to ban him for it). M1ghty and I then created an argument of banning and unbanning geo. I personally saw it as “M1ghty wants to ban geo because he’s getting on his nerves and used the n-word as an excuse.” Now I cannot 100% prove what I am about to say as true, since I no longer have access to logs nor staff chat, but I don’t think ANYONE in the history of Wonder.tf has ever been banned because of what Geo did. Quite literally almost EVERYONE (including most if not all staff!) has used the n-word in vc, and I found it as favoritism towards Geo. M1ghty eventually told me that he was messaging Stao and 8 about it if I didn’t stop unbanning him so I stopped and I left to go play with Geo.


Claiming there to be “Secret Staff Rules hidden in a rule section only staff can see”

This one is short and sweet, for a custom LR (I made myself) I put in “Titan Day. Titan Day is defined as Titan Day.” Luke then said that it was an invalid day and I couldn’t do it because “Titan Day” wasn’t defined in the rules so I joked about it being in some kind of “secret staff rules” I made it very clear in my voice that I was joking and I followed throughout the day. I resized everyone to 3x their original size (helping everyone stuck and such) and played throughout the round on low-pop LA jailbreak (10 - 15 players) Apparently people took “Titan Day being defined in Secret Staff Rules'' seriously… I don’t know why but apparently it’s a reason.

Arguing with a fellow admin, Lynical and supposedly refusing to settle our differences; discussing said differences in an un-serious manner.

This one should be the longest but I’ll cut it down as much as possible. Pretty much when Lynical and I met (before we were staff) Lynical disliked me, and it’s been constant arguments and rudeness towards each other since. I have multiple times had hour long talks with Lynical asking why he dislikes me so, and each one has resulted in more arguing and no true reason. I have asked Lynical to join me in other games so we could possibly bond, but he’s refused each time. At one point Lynical did his usual reports to staff (this time Patillian) about the little things I did, (respawning people I accidentally got killed, slayed someone in an impossible to kill spot, etc.) I was questioned about it by patillian and explained why I did what I did. I then got fed up with the unneeded conversations I’ve had to have with other higher ups, and explained to patillian in dms my situation. Patillian also agreed he was tired with the arguing, and told us both to settle our differences in dms. After about roughly 2 hours of us going at it (for the 3rd / 4th time) We finally (what I thought) agreed to stop being childish towards each other and agreed to have mutual respect as we have for other staff even though we don’t like each other. Roughly 20 minutes after that conversation Caval revealed to me that I was bearing the Ex-Staff role. I will admit during the conversation I had with Lynical I was acting very childish and ignorant towards him. I only did this because I thought that just like every other conversation we’ve had, it was gonna end up nowhere and I didn’t have time to waste that day. This was apparently the main reason for my demotion.

Following my arguments with Lynical, I need to share that when it comes to it my hands are tied. I have tried multiple times before to become friends with Lynical, but it just seems that he has been set on getting me in trouble eventually leading to a demotion. It’s to the extent that my playtime have severely dropped just to try to avoid him. This is not to hate on nor blame Lynical, but I’m just connecting some dots on what it seems like. Lynical has been reporting me countless times before in (what I assume) an attempt to get me in trouble, and when he saw me act out towards him in dms he had the perfect proof to get me demoted. I don’t know 100% if his actions were just for his attempt in my demotion, and I’m not saying at all that it was, (he even explained that he felt bad when I got demoted) but it almost seems like it.


I want to state this towards you and only you Lynical; If I regain staff and we have a chance to work side by side with each other once again, I will completely forget about our past towards one another and give you the respect as another staff member would, as long as you try to work on our friendship equally the same. I don't like arguing just as much as the next person, and I don't want it to happen between us again.


Let’s get on with the actual staff application now shall we.


General Information:


Username:


Jajakid



Discord Username (with #):

jajakid#0998


Age:

15


GameME:

gameME Stats - Player Information


SteamID:

My account: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198885861895/
Steam ID:
STEAM_0:1:462798083




Timezone & Online Times:

My time zone is Central Daylight Time



Questions:


Why are you applying?

I am applying because I still enjoy playing on Wonder.tf, I want to continue to assist it as much as possible in progressing and becoming more and more of a better jailbreak server, whether that be punishing rulebreakers, creating new ideas with other staff, or providing a sense of the extra bit of fun players need to have in order to want to come back to play more. I want to prove that I can do more and help more, not only with the period of time of me being staff, but more. I also want to prove I can stay with Wonder longer than just a year and be very beneficial towards it.

Do you have any previous experience administrating?

Only on Wonder, yes. I was staff from October 25th, 2020 - April 4th, 2021. I was staff for 161 days total. (roughly more than 5 months)
How would you improve the community?


I would improve the community by continuing to assist everyone in every way possible to assist in, whether it be around Wonder (ingame, rulebreakers, questions, etc.) or outside of wonder (pc questions, assist in other games, or someone to just talk and play with in general.) I will continue to do my very best to make Wonder one of the best jailbreak communities and possibly more.

What have you done already?

(As Staff)

I have been staff (obviously) and have supported Wonder while staff for as long as possible, doing as much as I possibly can do in-game and outside of game. I have been arguably one of the hardest working and best staff while still the most friendliest towards new and old players.

(Before Staff)

I bought vip+ (original price - 6 keys a month) for roughly 7 - 8 months straight, without ever abusing or anything with it. I also gave away a 15 key unusual and have brought multiple people into wonder (mostly into TF2 for that matter) just to increase its population and support it as much as possible. I was well known back in the day as the “really annoying kid” to the “kid who knew the craziest f****ng trick orders that will make you question your own sanity, was also kinda nice and fun to be around too”

Why should we pick you?

You should re-pick me as staff because I already have a lot of experience with in-game, commands, general rule breakers, the banning system, how long to punish someone for and what to punish them for, etc. I also regularly check the forums and am usually the first to put out an honest response to an application that most staff agree with or let someone know about an appeal. No offense to anyone on the staff team when I say this too, but I personally think I have the best grammar out of most of them. I also am different from most staff, and I hate to break it to you all, whether you know this and you're trying to hide it or you don’t know it, but there are 2 different types of jailbreak staff / players. There’s the one who gets on just to make sure that there is no rulebreakers (no mic spammers, nobody stepping out of place of the rules, etc.) and then there’s some like me. Hi, I like to have fun and make sure that others have fun, whether or not it is completely 100% following the rules. This may cost me my entire application, but it needs to be said. If 100% of players are having fun and enjoying themselves, whether it might include a little bit of horseplay here and there, I’m completely fine with whatever is happening. If someone is using a soundboard for example in a 5 pop server and not one complaint or grunt of annoyance is said and literally everyone is laughing and talking about it, I’ll leave it be. If there is a soundboard or something along the lines in LA for example, where the pop is usually higher than 10, I’ll warn them to turn it off, etc. Instead of your usual “hey don’t do this don’t do that” admin, I’ll make sure everyone has fun. The truth is not everyone has fun following the rules exactly and precisely as written, rules are meant to set boundaries on what is happening but a small little “bruh” on a soundboard when someone hilariously dies is not groundbreaking. I guess what I’m trying to say is, I’m not one of those staff members who try to take literally EVERYTHING seriously, that makes people not want to come back. Games are played to have fun in and without the fun and all just seriousness it’s like you're at boot camp when you're trying to just play on a video game. If there’s freekillers of course I’ll talk to them about it and deal with it like any other staff member would. I like to think of myself as that fun admin. Now before you question it of course, I haven't ever, and will never abuse my powers in any way, shape, or form. The only time I ever use anything commands outside of punishing rulebreakers is strictly only for LR's.
 

M1ghtymouse

No life
Staff member
Head Admin
Jan 20, 2020
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-1 due to the reasons of what’s happened due to the demotion, don’t see why you would re apply so soon after being demoted and the fact you constantly say I use the excuse of geo saying the n word to ban him just because I don’t like him is getting a bit of a joke now, you have said it multiple times and you get the same answer from pat and myself, we were both in the vc when he was saying the n word constantly, he had previously been banned for saying the n word whilst muted as well, so you using the excuse of saying I’m only banning him because I don’t like him is annoying and isn’t the reason at all, you then also started to cause some drama in main saying some things that didn’t quite happen and that caused me to have to step in and even dm some people telling them to ignore you as you weren’t quite telling the full story or the truth, if you’re going to explain about why you were demoted and the reasons at least tell the truth
 
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BlackBerry

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Jan 21, 2020
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Ok jaja, as you stated in your app, the reasons you got demoted are already listed, so I won't list it here.
But, I do have several points I'd like to point out / add to them.

1.
Now before I do, I want to clarify this. I don’t want to be / sound disrespectful nor hateful or hostile in any way, shape, or form to anybody. I am just explaining what happened and how I feel about it.
As I was reading through your app, I can't help but notice the passive aggressiveness in your wordings. As you said it, you don't mean to be disrespectful in any way or form, but implying it is just as, if not even, worse than directly doing so. I believe the main reasoning for your demotion isn't really the things you did in game (specifically the Titan Day and the Secret Staff Rules thing), but how you interact and talk to your fellow staff members.

2.
Arguing with a fellow admin, Lynical and supposedly refusing to settle our differences; discussing said differences in an un-serious manner.
As you stated quite clearly, you are NOT in good terms with M1ghty and Lynical, which can pose a few issues when we are the admins of the servers. Actively avoiding someone and causing your game time to decline is not an excuse. It just shows how unwilling or just how bad you are at improving and making friends. I'm not saying Lynical is totally in the right, and I'm not saying you're completely in the wrong. TBH I don't even know you had beef with him. To me, it's besides the point, you had a record of being EXTREMELY stubborn to communicate with, and I experienced it first hand. I believe you still remember that, right? Last time I gave you a second chance, believed you have changed. But clearly, you didn't learn at all.

3.
Claiming there to be “Secret Staff Rules hidden in a rule section only staff can see”
I am completely dumbfounded by how poorly you dealt with this situation. This whole thing won't even happened if you explained the rules SERIOUSLY or FOLLOW THE RULES. In the rules, it's stated that "Custom LRs cannot conflict with server rules, if this happens the LR is ignored." and "Days listed in the rules do not need to be defined by the warden". meaning that your LR technically didn't break any rules, but your definition of the LR is not clear or is borderline contradictory to itself. In your own words “Titan Day. Titan Day is defined as Titan Day.”, this clearly causes confusion and is explaining nothing. To this point, I see it as not a big deal, since you are the warden, and you can define the day yourself. But then, you had to say "I joked about it being in some kind of “secret staff rules” ", which you lied, as a warden. AND mind you, YOU ARE STILL AN ADMIN AT THE TIME. We do not, and never should, make any jokes or unclarities in the rules or in explaining them. You failed to do, thus leading to this situation.

Above are the issues, additional information, perspectives and feedbacks to the first section of you application. I will be using some of them later in my replies to address other issues in your main application. Now, let's get on to your main app.

This bit is quite short, too short in my opinion. But I know how hard it is to come up with new additions to an application, and I only wrote two. So I'll let the length slide. But, as I stated above, the wordings and unnecessary additions just shows (in my opinion) how immature you are.
Take these for example:
"I have been staff (obviously) and have supported Wonder while staff for as long as possible"
"I was well known back in the day as the “really annoying kid” to the “kid who knew the craziest f****ng trick orders that will make you question your own sanity, was also kinda nice and fun to be around too”"
" (basically the last third quarters of the Why should we pick you section)"

Just to clarify, I do not entirely disagree with what you are saying, but it does not have to be stated here. I don't know if you are being serious or not, but stating "No offense to anyone on the staff team when I say this too, but I personally think I have the best grammar out of most of them." does not help you in this situation. I'm really curious on why you are stating that as reason to accept you. I'm not sure how a 15 year old going around stating his English Grammar is better than other members of the staff team is gonna help in any way. Mind you, some of the staff are also from the US (not me, I'm an Asian living in Asia), you're not special.

Finally, this is my vote on this whole fiasco.

-1
Good Luck <3
 
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Jajakid

Member
Apr 1, 2020
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-1 due to the reasons of what’s happened due to the demotion, don’t see why you would re apply so soon after being demoted and the fact you constantly say I use the excuse of geo saying the n word to ban him just because I don’t like him is getting a bit of a joke now, you have said it multiple times and you get the same answer from pat and myself, we were both in the vc when he was saying the n word constantly, he had previously been banned for saying the n word whilst muted as well, so you using the excuse of saying I’m only banning him because I don’t like him is annoying and isn’t the reason at all, you then also started to cause some drama in main saying some things that didn’t quite happen and that caused me to have to step in and even dm some people telling them to ignore you as you weren’t quite telling the full story or the truth, if you’re going to explain about why you were demoted and the reasons at least tell the truth
I’m just stating what I personally think happened, I’m not trying to cover up anything. I said in my application I take full blame for what I did and I’m not trying to blame anyone else. Also the stuff in main you didn’t have to or need to step in. I wasn’t starting drama whatsoever. I made this application as an explanation of what happened and why I got demoted and then to apologize for that, and explain that it won’t happened again if I do regain staff. 8 also told me I could reapply whenever I want. Thanks for your vote M1ghty.
 

Lynical

I have a bad name
Staff member
Admin
Sep 23, 2020
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Hello jaja

I don't really know what you expect from an app 2 days after your demotion. If this was made with a lot of time in between. I would literally give you a +1, but now i'm gonna have to give a
-1 You already know my feelings towards this app, but I will say it again. I never intended for you to be demoted. But when we we're told to sort it out in private, I had a feeling it was going to be for real this time.

Some of the things you say (about me) we're kind of sugarcoated but I don't wanna write a 5 page essay on why so I'll just keep our differences privately. I know you are a good staff member but you do some questionable things. If you just said all of these things you have said in your app to me privately, I am 100% sure you would still be staff to this day and none of this would have happened.

I'm sorry it had to happen this way and you can ask numerous people that I felt bad about you being demoted. I wish you the best of luck jaja, I think everybody already knows the outcome of this app. So I suggest making another app in a month or so.
 
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Artistic fxncy

Imaaaagine?
Staff member
Admin
Sep 26, 2020
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Alright, most of the things that other staff are claiming im not seeing, never saw you favoritise your friends, nor do ''shit behind our backs'' . Yes you tend to joke and meme around that can cause situations like that secret staff rule, in which im giving you a advice, to think how the community would take it before making a joke about it, just be careful. Second thing, the whole issue that got you demoted has been resolved and shouldn't have any weight on this application, you cannot make people like each other, i know you and lynical had a past, but its past, the best would be putting it behind and continuing forward, you were one of the most active and known staff within the community (still are), who has a good grasp on rules and knows what to do, which is why ill be giving you a +1 .

However keep in mind, following the old methods on handling situations like these, if more of these arguments rise then i would act on it, if you make it back within the staff team.

best regards - fxncy
 
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Jajakid

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Alright, most of the things that other staff are claiming im not seeing, never saw you favoritise your friends, nor do ''shit behind our backs'' . Yes you tend to joke and meme around that can cause situations like that secret staff rule, in which im giving you a advice, to think how the community would take it before making a joke about it, just be careful. Second thing, the whole issue that got you demoted has been resolved and shouldn't have any weight on this application, you cannot make people like each other, i know you and lynical had a past, but its past, the best would be putting it behind and continuing forward, you were one of the most active and known staff within the community (still are), who has a good grasp on rules and knows what to do, which is why ill be giving you a +1 .

However keep in mind, following the old methods on handling situations like these, if more of these arguments rise then i would act on it, if you make it back within the staff team.

best regards - fxncy
Thank you for your vote fancy. The one thing that I would like to address towards all staff is that if I were ever warned and talked to about in the downhill slope that I was heading, none of it would be done. I did state it in my application but I will say it again. It was way too sudden. As soon as I was demoted I was mentioned of these “bad things” that I did. If I was ever told about a single one I could’ve waken up and stopped myself from doing the others. I’m not trying to blame anyone except for me on this, but please do understand that I continued my downward slope because I was never told I was in one nor to stop.
 

patillian

Swag PhD
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Head Admin
Mar 25, 2020
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Hello again Jaja,

The numerous reasons provided by M1ghty, Blackberry, Lynical, and even yourself are valid reasons why to vote negatively. I could also write my own small essay of why I'm voting the way I am, but I would much rather not.

What also made a big impact was arguing with all the higher-ups a few hours after your demotion. If you had accepted your demotion and reapplied a few days later, even 1-2 weeks later, you would've had a much better chance of becoming staff again.

My Vote: -1
 
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Darius

el mundo está jodido
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Nov 4, 2020
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Jaja, I really don't have much to say other then why would you reapply so fast? You literally got demoted 3 days ago man, I'm gonna have to agree with the rest of the staff team on this one.
-1
 
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Jajakid

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Hello again Jaja,

The numerous reasons provided by M1ghty, Blackberry, Lynical, and even yourself are valid reasons why to vote negatively. I could also write my own small essay of why I'm voting the way I am, but I would much rather not.

What also made a big impact was arguing with all the higher-ups a few hours after your demotion. If you had accepted your demotion and reapplied a few days later, even 1-2 weeks later, you would've had a much better chance of becoming staff again.


My Vote: -1
I wasn’t really trying to argue, I was just surprised and confused why I got and deserved my demotion. Thanks for you vote
 

Jajakid

Member
Apr 1, 2020
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Texas
Ok jaja, as you stated in your app, the reasons you got demoted are already listed, so I won't list it here.
But, I do have several points I'd like to point out / add to them.
1. As I was reading through your app, I can't help but notice the passive aggressiveness in your wordings. As you said it, you don't mean to be disrespectful in any way or form, but implying it is just as, if not even, worse than directly doing so. I believe the main reasoning for your demotion isn't really the things you did in game (specifically the Titan Day and the Secret Staff Rules thing), but how you interact and talk to your fellow staff members.
I did not mean to imply any sort of passive aggressiveness towards anybody. I simply just stated what happened and what my opinion on it was and what I thought. I can agree I could've and should've worded it a lot better and even looked at it from a staff standpoint and see how they would think about it. For the main reason of my demotion, I agree with it. I just included what other staff stated were the other reasons for my demotion.

As you stated quite clearly, you are NOT in good terms with M1ghty and Lynical, which can pose a few issues when we are the admins of the servers. Actively avoiding someone and causing your game time to decline is not an excuse. It just shows how unwilling or just how bad you are at improving and making friends. I'm not saying Lynical is totally in the right, and I'm not saying you're completely in the wrong. TBH I don't even know you had beef with him. To me, it's besides the point, you had a record of being EXTREMELY stubborn to communicate with, and I experienced it first hand. I believe you still remember that, right? Last time I gave you a second chance, believed you have changed. But clearly, you didn't learn at all.
In all honesty, I don't know what happened between m1ghty and I. I am lowkey very surprised more people didn't know about Lynical and I but when it comes down to talking about my relationship with m1ghty... I don't know. This isn't the best place to discuss it but seeing I can't really get a reason out of him, we were friends, one would even call it best friends for a while (3, 4 months?) we talked and played mainly every day and just one day we both stopped. It might be because of our timezones or me always wanting us to play with Geo but I doubt I'll ever know. When it comes down to me "actively avoiding someone and causing my gametime to decline", I only avoided Lynical because I feared what would happen on the day I got demoted. This might sound more of putting Lynical on the spotlight but I hated the unneeded conversations and explanations that continuosly threatened my staff position. Not a single time we've been in-game I've had to talk with other higher ups on what I did and why I did, the more of that, the higher the chance of me getting demoted was. Aside from that, the ONLY beef I've EVER had with ANY staff EVER have now been you Blackberry, Lynical, and M1ghtymouse. If I don't recall I've never had nothing more than a joking talk with anyone else. I make friends completely fine mind you, most of my friends I actively play with now I've met from Wonder.tf."

I am completely dumbfounded by how poorly you dealt with this situation. This whole thing won't even happened if you explained the rules SERIOUSLY or FOLLOW THE RULES. In the rules, it's stated that "Custom LRs cannot conflict with server rules, if this happens the LR is ignored." and "Days listed in the rules do not need to be defined by the warden". meaning that your LR technically didn't break any rules, but your definition of the LR is not clear or is borderline contradictory to itself. In your own words “Titan Day. Titan Day is defined as Titan Day.”, this clearly causes confusion and is explaining nothing. To this point, I see it as not a big deal, since you are the warden, and you can define the day yourself. But then, you had to say "I joked about it being in some kind of “secret staff rules” ", which you lied, as a warden. AND mind you, YOU ARE STILL AN ADMIN AT THE TIME. We do not, and never should, make any jokes or unclarities in the rules or in explaining them. You failed to do, thus leading to this situation.
In this situation, I was NEVER warden. I was a prisoner on the space jailbreak make with incredibly low pop, and I was doing an LR and making a joke out of what I thought was another joke thrown at me by luke. I never intended nor tried to convince players that there was another section of the rules they didn't know about, I was trying to make a harmless little joke that most players enjoyed.

Just to clarify, I do not entirely disagree with what you are saying, but it does not have to be stated here. I don't know if you are being serious or not, but stating "No offense to anyone on the staff team when I say this too, but I personally think I have the best grammar out of most of them." does not help you in this situation. I'm really curious on why you are stating that as reason to accept you. I'm not sure how a 15 year old going around stating his English Grammar is better than other members of the staff team is gonna help in any way. Mind you, some of the staff are also from the US (not me, I'm an Asian living in Asia), you're not special.
I was trying to emphasize the point that since most of our staff may have broken English due to them living in other areas of the world, I could assist them in that by being very fluent and clear in the way that the rest of the server speaks, since there are some complaints here and there about it. I'm not at all trying to prove a point or brag here, and even though it's doubtful for a 15 year old, I have very virtuous grammar compared to the rest of the staff (referencing what I just said above). I did not mean to come rude or special in any way, I just stated that I could help.


Sorry if it turned into a response that catualus might have, and sorry that it took me a while to respond. I was at school when you replied and I wanted to get on my computer to respond to you. I already know where this application is headed and it turns out that me sitting here every month writting new applications is where I'm designated to be here. The only reason I posted this application so soon is that I couldn't bear the idea of me having to go into another phase of me writing new apps every month just to be declined, I wanted to make sure that other staff still know of who I was before they might forget about me and forget what I did and who I was on my next app.



Thanks for your vote.
 

_planeboy

Mauricio
Staff member
Moderator
Oct 4, 2020
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Ayy wussgood pimp, so ima make this reply short and simple because there's literally nothing new for me to say, everything that has been said has already been said, so heres my take.
You were, to me, a good mod, you knew the rules and to me u was fair in enforcing the rules, and i would return the favor inn plus one-ning but I cant. To plus one you would be to me to alienate the critiques of the other staff and to minus one you would be to alienate u as my homie so ima stay NEUTRAL .
You are a good friend and u were a good mod, but i cant support anyone in this situation, i do wish u good luck on your app and hope u stay on the server longer.
Anyways, ahve a good day pimp.
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BlackBerry

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So Jaja, I've got some more stuff to add and say about your reply.
I'll try to make it short this time, and mind you, these are criticisms, so it's gonna sting a bit.

In this situation, I was NEVER warden. I was a prisoner on the space jailbreak make with incredibly low pop, and I was doing an LR and making a joke out of what I thought was another joke thrown at me by luke. I never intended nor tried to convince players that there was another section of the rules they didn't know about, I was trying to make a harmless little joke that most players enjoyed.
So I believe you know that only wardens can make custom days happen, or interpret them in the way they want to if it's not stated in the LR itself. My point was, you know well you should've gave a more clearer definition of your Titan Day. In doing so, you'd be making sure players won't get it wrongly as Luke did. I'm not sure if Luke is warden or not, you didn't state it. But all will be fine if the warden at the time said it was fine. Ima need an answer to this one dude.
Still, you shouldn't have joked about something even resembling or mentioning the rules. Do you know what your whole point of being an admin is? If so, then you know well why you shouldn't have done that.

When it comes down to me "actively avoiding someone and causing my gametime to decline", I only avoided Lynical because I feared what would happen on the day I got demoted. This might sound more of putting Lynical on the spotlight but I hated the unneeded conversations and explanations that continuosly threatened my staff position. Not a single time we've been in-game I've had to talk with other higher ups on what I did and why I did, the more of that, the higher the chance of me getting demoted was.

Well, you see here, the whole situation escalated because you failed to communicate with Lynical. Which lead to others stepping in, thus made it worse. "Fearing what would happen on the day I got demoted" is quite frankly, dumb. I don't get what your pointing out here.
"I hated the unneeded conversations and explanations that continuously threatened my staff position" is the reason you are here right now. Lack of communication, unneeded drama, and most of all, you being too over yourself and considers things unneeded.

I was trying to emphasize the point that since most of our staff may have broken English due to them living in other areas of the world, I could assist them in that by being very fluent and clear in the way that the rest of the server speaks, since there are some complaints here and there about it.
Emmm, I ain't throwing shade or anything, and I'm not trying to make you look bad or name names. But can you provide some evidence and some source for your reasoning to believe other staff members require English assistance, or received complaints regarding their English skills? DMs will be fine, I'll keep it to myself and I'll happily remove this section if you do provide with such things.

Aside from that, the ONLY beef I've EVER had with ANY staff EVER have now been you Blackberry, Lynical, and M1ghtymouse.
I'm sure you still remember the situation between me and you. I assure you I cannot forget the situation between us. But never have I considered it bad blood between us. If you need to refresh your memory a bit, I believe I told you at the end while we resolved the whole thing, to be less stubborn to change, be more open to conversations and as well as admit to your own mistakes. To me, it's just another small conflict between players, and I believe you changed by then. But as soon as I heard about the reasoning you got demoted, I can tell you positively that you have not changed at all. I don't know all the details to your side of the story, but I've heard enough from others. If you have to defend yourself, I'll gladly listen. But until then, good luck.
 

Jajakid

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*zzzzt* Ouch. Your doing me dirty man. This is just a continuation of a war field at this point

In this situation, I was NEVER warden. I was a prisoner on the space jailbreak make with incredibly low pop, and I was doing an LR and making a joke out of what I thought was another joke thrown at me by luke. I never intended nor tried to convince players that there was another section of the rules they didn't know about, I was trying to make a harmless little joke that most players enjoyed.
So I believe you know that only wardens can make custom days happen, or interpret them in the way they want to if it's not stated in the LR itself. My point was, you know well you should've gave a more clearer definition of your Titan Day. In doing so, you'd be making sure players won't get it wrongly as Luke did. I'm not sure if Luke is warden or not, you didn't state it. But all will be fine if the warden at the time said it was fine. Ima need an answer to this one dude.
Still, you shouldn't have joked about something even resembling or mentioning the rules. Do you know what your whole point of being an admin is? If so, then you know well why you shouldn't have done that.
There was no minigame or trail to be followed in this LR. The one and only thing that happened with this LR is me making everyone large. No warden had to define or explain, nothing was abused, it was all just a buncha boi's bein big. I in all honesty cannot remember who was warden and if it was Luke or not, but at this point I'm deadass when I say; why is this such a big deal to this extent...? I literally got an LR fair and square and made everyone big. Everyone loved it and had fun, and nothing except a bunch of laughs were shared the next round. The only reason this was mentioned and brought up by Luke is probably because he was joking or trying to get me in trouble with me stating "It's defined in the secret staff rules that only staff can see". Nobody ever should take that seriously, especially in the way I emphasized it.

When it comes down to me "actively avoiding someone and causing my gametime to decline", I only avoided Lynical because I feared what would happen on the day I got demoted. This might sound more of putting Lynical on the spotlight but I hated the unneeded conversations and explanations that continuosly threatened my staff position. Not a single time we've been in-game I've had to talk with other higher ups on what I did and why I did, the more of that, the higher the chance of me getting demoted was.
Well, you see here, the whole situation escalated because you failed to communicate with Lynical. Which lead to others stepping in, thus made it worse. "Fearing what would happen on the day I got demoted" is quite frankly, dumb. I don't get what your pointing out here.
"I hated the unneeded conversations and explanations that continuously threatened my staff position" is the reason you are here right now. Lack of communication, unneeded drama, and most of all, you being too over yourself and considers things unneeded.
I'm baffled by this response. I have explained to full detail that Lynical was the one unneedingly disliking me to the extent of reporting me over and over. Lynical and I have (from what I think and hopefully) made up finally. At one point Lynical even admitted and apologized for it disliking me so much before, "jajakidYesterday at 8:05 AM - I did everything in my willpower to be chill w you and you just spat on it, so I gave the same response you gave me before and here I am /// LynicalYesterday at 8:06 AM - i have a vague memory of that, and i apologize." (By the way because it may seem like it, I'm not trying to put Lynical on the spotlight and create more drama.) I meant to specify that if I get talked more and more about, the more likely there is going to be a reason to demote me, so I tried avoiding Lynical at all costs so that wouldn't happen. Also could you please emphasize
you being too over yourself and considers things unneeded.
I'm sure you still remember the situation between me and you. I assure you I cannot forget the situation between us. But never have I considered it bad blood between us. If you need to refresh your memory a bit, I believe I told you at the end while we resolved the whole thing, to be less stubborn to change, be more open to conversations and as well as admit to your own mistakes. To me, it's just another small conflict between players, and I believe you changed by then. But as soon as I heard about the reasoning you got demoted, I can tell you positively that you have not changed at all. I don't know all the details to your side of the story, but I've heard enough from others. If you have to defend yourself, I'll gladly listen. But until then, good luck.
I'm not going to continue the unneeded argument about the reasons of why I was demoted. I have explained all reasons in full detail and even told others that if I was missing or exaggerating anything that they can ask me to change it and I will. The situation between you and I was quite obviously on my bad, but you can't be bringing up arguments that happened quite literally 7 MONTHS AGO. I honestly thought we were through with talking about it, and all of our other interactions have been fine. If you don't recall, 7 months ago was a time I was still trying to change for the better. Of course I'm going to make mistakes here and there, but to bring up one that was 7 months ago?? Being on this server for over a year now is of course going to bring up conflicts here and there, and some I guess are impossible to forget about. But when someone is playing for the amount of time I have, and has been as active as I've been, (31+ days on servers, over 40k messages sent in discord), Of course they are going to make mistakes. Right now, your comparing, lets say, someone's accidents they've made at work who's been working there for over 20 years, and someone's accidents they've made in work in only one year. Obviously there's going to be a major difference. People and other staff don't have nearly as much mistakes as I do, and it shouldn't be surprising seeing how long and how much I've done compared to others. Everyone has their own mistakes, and most are even kept quiet. I've been exposed to 90% of my total mistakes right now, and other staff when they applied were only confronted about 2 - 3. So on top of all that and you can only bring up one 7 months ago needs to say something.
 

Lynical

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*zzzzt* Ouch. Your doing me dirty man. This is just a continuation of a war field at this point



There was no minigame or trail to be followed in this LR. The one and only thing that happened with this LR is me making everyone large. No warden had to define or explain, nothing was abused, it was all just a buncha boi's bein big. I in all honesty cannot remember who was warden and if it was Luke or not, but at this point I'm deadass when I say; why is this such a big deal to this extent...? I literally got an LR fair and square and made everyone big. Everyone loved it and had fun, and nothing except a bunch of laughs were shared the next round. The only reason this was mentioned and brought up by Luke is probably because he was joking or trying to get me in trouble with me stating "It's defined in the secret staff rules that only staff can see". Nobody ever should take that seriously, especially in the way I emphasized it.



I'm baffled by this response. I have explained to full detail that Lynical was the one unneedingly disliking me to the extent of reporting me over and over. Lynical and I have (from what I think and hopefully) made up finally. At one point Lynical even admitted and apologized for it disliking me so much before, "jajakidYesterday at 8:05 AM - I did everything in my willpower to be chill w you and you just spat on it, so I gave the same response you gave me before and here I am /// LynicalYesterday at 8:06 AM - i have a vague memory of that, and i apologize." (By the way because it may seem like it, I'm not trying to put Lynical on the spotlight and create more drama.) I meant to specify that if I get talked more and more about, the more likely there is going to be a reason to demote me, so I tried avoiding Lynical at all costs so that wouldn't happen. Also could you please emphasize



I'm not going to continue the unneeded argument about the reasons of why I was demoted. I have explained all reasons in full detail and even told others that if I was missing or exaggerating anything that they can ask me to change it and I will. The situation between you and I was quite obviously on my bad, but you can't be bringing up arguments that happened quite literally 7 MONTHS AGO. I honestly thought we were through with talking about it, and all of our other interactions have been fine. If you don't recall, 7 months ago was a time I was still trying to change for the better. Of course I'm going to make mistakes here and there, but to bring up one that was 7 months ago?? Being on this server for over a year now is of course going to bring up conflicts here and there, and some I guess are impossible to forget about. But when someone is playing for the amount of time I have, and has been as active as I've been, (31+ days on servers, over 40k messages sent in discord), Of course they are going to make mistakes. Right now, your comparing, lets say, someone's accidents they've made at work who's been working there for over 20 years, and someone's accidents they've made in work in only one year. Obviously there's going to be a major difference. People and other staff don't have nearly as much mistakes as I do, and it shouldn't be surprising seeing how long and how much I've done compared to others. Everyone has their own mistakes, and most are even kept quiet. I've been exposed to 90% of my total mistakes right now, and other staff when they applied were only confronted about 2 - 3. So on top of all that and you can only bring up one 7 months ago needs to say something.
Alright Jaja

I'm just gonna talk about my part, because I have no business in Blackberry's part. In the past I had no problem with you, you might think this to be a lie but it really isn't. I just thought you were the meme of wonder at the time and I kind of just played along. This could've led up to you thinking that I didn't like you, who knows. But I will admit the moment I started disliking you was when I got accepted back into the staff team and you had a problem with that. I didn't know why and I still don't, when we had a staff meeting you even expressed this to Stao. Then you already started talking about promotions, and thats when I felt the way I feel about you today. We resolved our childish dispute now and I hope to never have a conversation like that again. But I just wanted to clear up why I started disliking you. All I ever said to you BEFORE the nuke was all satire and was barely serious. And just putting 3 sentences in this response (even though you said you are not trying to put a spotlight on me) is extremely out of context and this was even after the fact that you were demoted. I do not really remember what i said to you nor do I wanna go dig through staff chat to see what I said to you.

You think I report you everytime you do something wrong, this is so far from the truth. In total I reported you I think 3 times since November of 2020 when we were both accepted, and most of these "reports" started with asking a question to someone who knew the rules better than me if it was allowed or not I almost never name drop you. I only do this when the they ask me who did what I was talking about. I hate the fact that you think that every chance I have to make you look bad I will jump on and report you, because it couldnt be further from the truth.

Jaja, I said this to you privately but I'll happily say it here too. I apologize for the time I was a dick to you, BUT I wasnt the only one that was being a dick. We we're both in the wrong and thats what I wanted to show you and explain to you in our private conversation but you just didn't want to listen and threw away the chance you had.

I still feel bad about your demotion, I was not the one who demoted you or decided to demote you so I hope that clears stuff up for you or any other person who thought this.
 

Vladimir Po0tis

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I will stay Neutral this whole situation has spread to many discussions about how a warning should have been issued first, how demote is too harsh a punishment, and so on.
 

BlackBerry

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Well dude, I really don't wanna do this but, you are just asking for it at this point.
As I stated last time, if you could deal with the situation like an adult and stop using words that seem or are even directly insulting, you wouldn't have gotten to this point.
If you think this is a war, sure go ahead. I'm just doing my job to state and present the pros and cons; the things you did and my takes on it. If you feel assaulted by my replies, tell me in a DM and stop posting stuff that'll just make your situations worse.

Some few disclaimers, this is not to reply on your reply, this is purely an explanation to my points and statements. Since you've got the idea wrong, I'll explain it here for you.

In the original statement of mine, I was emphasizing your LR is extremely contradictory to itself.
(Titan day, Titan Day is defined as Titan Day) Please do reply if you can tell me where Titan Day is defined in the LR. If you can, I'll gladly stop, but until then.
In your words "this LR is me making everyone large." which is fine in it's own right. But I was specifically saying how your LR is not following rules' guidelines for a Custom Day. Then I went on saying "You can do so if you're warden, which you can interpret the LR as you please", meaning I asked you if you were the warden, which you weren't. Then I proceeded to ask if Luke was, in a sense that he might be and you forced the LR to carry on. But then you denied it as well, which leaves the question to, was that LR legitimate or even legal for you to use your powers. The whole point was on why you chose to write your LR in that way, which caused unneeded conflicts between you and Luke, and you escalated it by giving out false information.

Again Jaja, it's not about how long ago it was.
It's about changing and improving. To me, you have not changed a single bit. Even to this day, your so focused on proving yourself right while neglecting the proof of your "opponent" and past experiences of you with others. You have been stubborn and childish 7 months ago, and you still are to this day. Don't tell me you need someone to tell you that you need to word what you say carefully to avoid people from getting the wrong idea and to avoid people from disliking you. I won't touch on Lynical's section, hence I won't go any further in the matter.

Again, this part is VERY important, so read it CAREFULLY
I have NO intention in starting a conflict or war between you and I in this app. The replies are my OPINION/PROOF/CLEARIFICATION on the matter of you reapplying and my replies. If you have problems or issues with my replies, DM me. I stated my case, and I'll end it here until you can convince me in DMs that my opinions are wrong.
 

QuirkyJackal

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I thought you would have used more of your time to think about what you did in the past weeks. But no. You decided to re-apply only 3 days after your demotion. Instead of, I don't know, 1 month or 2.

Wanted to see what the others would have replied? Here you go.

(“all the things you did under our nose”, “making up bs rules”, “and responding to people in a disrespectful manner” were not mentioned nor explained in the day-long talk I had with all head admins, and all managers.)
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The "all the things you did under our nose" thing was successively explained. This morning I saw you re-posting half of our conversation in main instead of posting it entirely and I, honestly, didn't like this because for me it looked you wanted to make others understand that I said a bullshit and to make a bad propaganda about me or the entire staff team to convince us to re-accept you. And I who felt bad for your demotion.
By the way, I didn't say any bullshit. After the "I'm eating" sentence I explained everything I understood about your situation. Then you explained why your friend got banned and asked me what arguements you had between head admins, but I didn't know how I could answer to this one since everything you wanted to know about it has been stated by the others.

Now I'll talk about your conversation with Lynical: in the screenshot I sent you can see that you sent me half of it. Why am I saying half again? Because I exactly know how it started and how it ended, because Lynical sent screenshots to me, pat and M1ghty. Lynical was trying to make peace with you with the intent of resolving this problem of harmony, if I can say it, between you and him, but your reaction was just wrong and unexpected. You were supposed to accept his apologies and move on, like fxncy said, instead of refusing them. After we, head admins, saw what you wrote to him we decided to put your demotion at the votes and we all agreed. Then we finally saw you making peace with Lynical, but it was too late.
I had this same situation with Greer a year ago. I thought that Greer was bullying me and then I had enough and went toxic towards him without knowing it. But then I understood that the one who were in the wrong was me because I have been too irritable to not to understand that everything he said towards me was just a joke.

Talking about your staff role abuse, everything has been stated by the others.

Now I'll talk about your application:

This is mainly based on your demotion story and it just looks a battlefield like Catualus' one.

I was trying to emphasize the point that since most of our staff may have broken English due to them living in other areas of the world, I could assist them in that by being very fluent and clear in the way that the rest of the server speaks, since there are some complaints here and there about it. I'm not at all trying to prove a point or brag here, and even though it's doubtful for a 15 year old, I have very virtuous grammar compared to the rest of the staff (referencing what I just said above). I did not mean to come rude or special in any way, I just stated that I could help.
Excuse me? Weren't you the one who said that even if me and Vlad don't speak English very well everyone could still understand us? There were never been complaints about this problem, only meticulous people are able to complain for such thing. I am a meticulous person too, but I know my limits. If you think you have a chance writing this you are wrong.

If you didn't abuse your staff role and weren't so stubborn you wouldn't be demoted, arguing about it with a hot-tempered behavoir and doing this application.

I didn't expect this behavoir from you as your answer to your demotion. You have to know that I am really disappointed from you. We all are.

You said that you will change behavoir if you get accepted. I hope so because if you get accepted next time you'll have no more chances after that. Keep it in mind.
 
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